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Tips For Creating & Selling Erotic Audio

My consultation clients know that this phone sex superhero’s personal weakness is making erotic audio files to sell. I know the mechanics, the tech side, of making them. I have, on occasions, made them for regular clients. I understand the monetary value of selling them. But what I, and many other PSOs, struggle with is what to record… What do I say to a stranger I do not know? I have tried reading stories I’ve written; but as I do not know who is listening, I end up sounding like a librarian at story time with toddlers. I know that may flip a few switches, but, honestly, they sound silly to me. ;)

Who better to ask about this than a professional who produces and sells erotic audio files AND a regular consumer of adult audio? Enter Muse, who has been making such audio recordings for six years, and Alice Wonder, a consumer of erotic audios. (If his name sounds familiar, it’s because he’s the man behind Alice Wonder Miscreations who recently launched Naughty.Audio mentioned here.) I asked both of them to share their insights and experiences — happily, both were generous enough to agree.

I know you are just one person, but what do you think customers are looking for when they purchase erotic audios?

Muse: Anonymity, ease of use; not having to interact, really.

Alice Wonder: I was raised in a very puritanical environment, and I am a naturally shy person. That combination makes it difficult for me to ask a PSO to fulfill a particular fantasy I have or if she is the right PSO to help me explore something. However by listening to her audios, and she discusses a particular kink, I feel safer discussing it with her when I call. For me, audio recordings give me a feel for the imagination of the PSO and whether or not we enjoy the same kind of role plays. I want my mind stimulated on a call. They also give me fantasy inspiration.

In addition to helping me find the right PSO to call, I also particularly enjoy tease audios for the sake of the erotic stimulation. I like to close my eyes and just listen.

I know you are just one person, Alice, but what are you looking for in adult audio?

Alice Wonder: Personally I like to be surprised. If the first time I listen to it I can predict what is going to happen, I may still enjoy the audio but I really prefer it when I can not figure out what is coming next. I like audios that have a fun aspect to them. Fun is positive and puts me in a very good mood.

On Twitter we discussed that there’s more feedback with live one-on-one phone sex calls than with recordings. (I’ve written about this on my phone sex promo Tumblr too.) This sort of live interaction is what I thrive on; the lack of it is what makes me, and other PSOs, so uncomfortable…

Alice Wonder: You know, I personally love giving feedback on phone sex calls, and when I read that discussion on Twitter I realized that I often do not give feedback on audios. I have given feedback on custom audios; but on non-custom audios, when I have given feedback at all, it been very short. I wonder if there is a psychological reason for that. I am going to try and find out.

After all these years in this business, I know something as little as hair or shoe color can be a big deal to a client. How do we know what to say, what buttons to push, when we don’t know who is listening?

Muse: Simple, we don’t.

I make things that appeal to me. And, I’m gonna get “meta” here, I think about my work as a catalog. So, I think, “How will this look when I stop?” Because Internet pirates will share and keep me ‘around’ forever. I’m also a writer, so I tend to have themes going throughout my work.

Should recordings be conversational, like leaving a voicemail message to a lover? Should they be performances or readings of erotic stories, with varying voices and the like? Should they me more voyeuristic, providing the sounds of sex? Should they be more like guided masturbation sessions, oral assignments? All of the above?! …I know the real answer is that it’s up to the performer’s own style — but based on your experiences, is there a “best practice”?

Muse: I do Erotic hypnosis, so I feel there’s a point where I go from clinical to teasing…

However, when I read erotica, as I have on Amazon, it’s more like a lover.

Alice Wonder: My favorite audios are those where the entertainer makes the audio feel like she is addressing me, leading me through a fantasy she created for me.

Do you think specific fetishes or niches are better for naughty adult audios?

Alice Wonder: This is hard to answer. I actually like to do exploration by listening to audios in different categories just to see if it turns me on. My personal favorite categories are cock-tease, coerced blowjob (Mistress coercing a straight submissive to give one to a man of her choosing), and erotic mind-fucking. However I like to listen a wide variety just to see what I like. That was one of my motives with Naughty.Audio, I wanted it to be easy to select a category and find several audios by different performers to listen to within that category.

Muse: Erotic hypnosis is amazing. I’m branching out and offering video — just my mouth in lipstick — blowing kisses, while I do monster girl themed hypnosis.

Is there an ideal length for an erotic recording?

Muse: I do shorter files of about 12 minutes; but some are 20-30 minutes.

Alice Wonder: When the audio is intended as an audio teaser for marketing, it should probably not be longer than 5 or 6 minutes. That’s long enough to build our desire, and leave us with that desire for wanting more.

When it comes to teasers, you mentioned that 5 or 6 minutes is a good length. That seems like quite a long time for me to talk to an unknown stranger who cannot converse back with me! Is a minute or two OK for a voice sample recording?

Alice Wonder: What I meant was that it shouldn’t be longer than 5 or 6 minutes. Many are shorter, and that’s fine. Around 3 to 4 minutes seems fairly common, and that is including her giving her website, phone number, and rate at the end.

For paid audios I do not think there is an ideal length. Well, I guess there is. If they go over half an hour, they probably should be split up into separate audios of 10 to 15 minutes. That lets me buy one to see if I like the series, and buy the others later if I do. If I already know I will like the series, it lets me buy the entire series at once for a small discount and feel good about having saved a few bucks.

Is there a preferred audio format?

Alice Wonder: From a strictly technical perspective, Ogg Opus. It provides extremely high quality at a much smaller file size than other common audio formats. However it is still relatively new, and a lot of players (e.g. iTunes, Windows Media Player, etc.) do not support it. Chrome, FireFox, Opera, foobar2000, and VLC do support it, however. Though Safari and Internet Explorer do not. Support looks like it is coming soon for Edge.

From a player support perspective, AAC is the best. When you come across an audio file than ends in .m4a it usually is AAC. It allows high quality for spoken content at a much smaller file size than MP3 for the same audio quality, and it is supported by every browser.

As a buyer, what price do you expect to pay for a “standard” adult audio? For a custom erotic audio?

Alice Wonder: For non-custom audios, I generally feel a dollar a minute is fair for audios under half an hour, but I have zero market research on whether or not that is a good price point. For custom audios, twice her phone sex rate. Again, I have no market research. Honestly, I usually use free teaser erotic audios as a tool to find PSOs I want to call and/or inspire fantasy. I do buy audios, but not terribly frequently.

How do you calculate your pricing?

Muse: I used to only do it by time, but I’ve spent SO MUCH on my equipment! Now I just go with my gut. If I want $20 for a file I’ll get it.

Do you create and sell custom audios? If so, do you charge more for them?

Muse: I do custom audios. It’s $50 a recording; no haggling, no 20 minute mark. I may not set a file length. Yes I charge more. Maybe because I’m working on a clock — I promise barring death or sickness the custom audio will be done in 3 days.

I know a number of adult content producers who offer custom works, including custom audio. And I know that adult content makers often put those custom works up for sale; which they can do as they own the copyright to the works. This seems ideal — then you know just what a client wants, can provide it, and perhaps may make a little more off your efforts if others buy it as well. But how do clients feel about this… Does such a practice bother you?

Alice Wonder: It only would bother me if I wrote the script. If she wrote the script, it wouldn’t bother me at all. If I wrote the script and she offered me something like another audio for free then it wouldn’t bother me at all. If she was a PSO I considered an online friend and she asked, then I would feel a sense of pride and would not want anything in exchange.

On sites like NF, you can sell erotic audio as a Goodie (a digital store item, similar to purchasing a “clip” of adult video), a Pay-to-View message (via a “Buy” button), and callers can pay per minute to listen to a “recorded call.” Other platform sites offer similar options. What are your experiences with each of those sales methods? Is one better than the other?

Muse: I loathe the recorded listing. I can’t honestly tell you why, I just… do. That option made more sense before pay to views… I love pay to views. I’m warming up to Goodies, as they allow you to group similar themed content. For example, cuckold fetish bags sell well.

Alice Wonder: Delivery of audios is a sore thumb issue for me. Custom audios are often delivered by e-mail and that has caused a lot of issues as they often are a larger file size than my mail server allows for attachments.

For non-custom audios, I like to be able to download them.

However what I really want (and want to create) is an audio store that lets me listen to any audio I have purchased in the past in my web browser, just by logging in to the system. I think that would be better for privacy, because it means I do not have to have the audio files on my local computer if I don’t want them there, and I think it would be good for the performer, because the listener could be easily alerted to new audios the performer has created when he logs in to listen, and the performer could potentially be given statistics telling her which audios customers bought that they listen to frequently. Download of course should always be an option.

To clarify, I haven’t bought erotic audios from NiteFlirt; I’ve bought from LDW and I’ve bought custom audios from PSOs directly.

[Just so you (and others) know, some of these issues mentioned, they can be avoided or addressed via NiteFlirt, where purchases are stored in your account in your File Player. You can download, or just stream from there. (This includes other media, like videos, as well.)

Also, regarding custom works, when I sell audio (or custom stories), I typically ask for a deposit via a Payment Request. Once that payment is made, I begin creating. When done, I send the finished work with the balance due in a Pay to View. That way, the client receives the item as soon as they make their payment. It avoids schedule/time difference delays as well as issues with file size. (Similar options are on most phone sex platforms.)]

What is likely to turn you off as a buyer?

Alice Wonder: It is really annoying when I purchase an audio and then have to open it up in an audio editor to remove noise and/or peak normalize it so the volume is proper. It has happened to me several times, and is one of my pet peeves; especially since the result is never as good as it would have been if working from the master. I would buy more if I was not scared of that somewhat frequent problem.

Aside from the technical issues, what else might turn you off as an audio buyer? Let’s say you have not purchased from a particular performer before but you see an audio listed which seems interesting, arousing… What sort of things might deter you from making that first time purchase?

Alice Wonder: Good question! I do not know the answer — but I do know I am turned off if there is no way to find out something more about the phone sex operator. If they do not have a blog/Tumblr that they use… If they either do not tweet, or if the only tweets they do have are quite obviously just auto generated.

If I can see how they react to people, it makes them more personal to me.

In general, what reassures you to go ahead and make a purchase?

Alice Wonder: Brutally honest here, lust. Something makes me really desire it.

The first erotic audio I ever purchased, the artist had a series of six and she ran a promotional that allowed us to download the first two for free in exchange for signing up at her site. I eventually bought the entire set because the first two left me wanting more.

Another time I purchased, it was a foot worship audio from a different performer. She wrote a blog about it where she had the beginning of the audio in text and it tantalized me into buying the audio.

To the PSOs, like myself, who feel awkward talking into a microphone to reach an unknown listener, what advice would you give?

Muse: I’m a writer, an erotica writer. So, I can script. I recommend it. But honestly, just jump in try it. It doesn’t hurt and you can always delete it.

If you try and feel it’s lacking, message me via NF. I do freelance script writing for a fee. My script services start at $5 depending on depth and topic.

Thanks to you both for sharing!

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News Regarding Wishlists, Gifts, & Tips

With all the talk about gifts & tips (or tributes), platform percentages & issues, payment options & costs, I wanted to highlight some new options…

GiftRocket

GiftRocket, an online means of giving gift cards (which can be converted to cash via a bank transfer or a credit to their credit card in a matter of a few days), now has launched a custom url service. For those not familiar with GiftRocket, you likely want to know a few things…

GiftRocket Is Safe, Secure, & Anonymous: The gift giver need only have the gift recipient’s email address in order to send a gift. And that’s all they will see; no banking or other info is shared. Also, the person receiving the gift only sees the gift sender’s email address — and any information they wish to send.

GiftRocket Fees: There are no fees for the person receiving the gift; however, gift givers pay a small fee of roughly $2 and 5% of the gift amount. “In certain cases, the fee may be different depending on several factors.” However, the fee amount is displayed at checkout so there is no confusion.

GiftRocket Location: Unfortunately, GiftRocket is not an international service; meaning if you are outside of the US, you are not currently able to use it.

As for GiftRocket’s new custom link option, here’s my example. It which comes with a custom shorter URL, grock.me/PhoneSexSecrets, which is perfect for use on social media sites, especially with Twitter’s 140 character limit.

This new GiftRocket service was likely prompted by both PayPal’s new PayPal Me service as well as SquareUp’s Cash.Me service. I never, ever, recommend PayPal* for phone sex or anything adult. And Cash.Me** isn’t an option I’d recommend either. While Gift Rocket has no mention in their terms of service that prohibits any occupations, I would make it absolutely clear to your clients that use of GiftRocket/GrockMe is only for gifts/tips and that they should keep all messages/comments clean. And, if you are doing the financial domination thing, well, use at your own risk.

If this seems too risky, then go with a company that actually had sex workers & adult entertainers in mind when it was created.

DeliveryCode

As I shared on Twitter, DeliveryCode now allows you to convert your gifted vouchers into cash. For those not familiar with Delivery Code, it’s the only wishlist service where you can shop from virtually anywhere (any store) and your personal information, including your delivery address, is securely hidden from the buyer. Additional need-to-know:

DeliveryCode Is Safe, Secure, & Anonymous: The whole shopping / gifting site is based on anonymity. And, contrary to what you may have heard when the site started, Delivery Code does indeed use HTTP Secure (https), encrypted communications security.

DeliveryCode Fees: Again, fees are paid by the gift giver.

DeliveryCode Location: As a company, DeliveryCode is based in the UK — but is open internationally and allows international sales, though not all countries are allowed/supported. Again, if you researched the company in its early days, you may have heard about some issues in shipping costs. To clarify, here’s what DeliveryCode says in their terms about shipping costs:

A delivery charge is added to every wishlist purchase to cover any shipping costs incured from the 3rd party retailer. It is a set fee which does not differentiate between retailers. The exact fee is based on whether it is domestic or international delivery and is also dependent on the currency of the product. Our delivery charges have been calculated based on average retailer delivery charges.

Again, these charges would be paid by the gift giver.

However, should you become excited by the idea of shopping internationally for your gift wishlist items, items sent from a different country may require you, the recipient, to pay duties and/or taxes.

Another caveat, DeliveryCode does not accept auction items on wishlists. This is for the obvious reasons of bidding and time-frames. (Personally, if such sites are your thing, I would save such wishlist items for your blog/website/tweets — and use GiftRocket as a means of getting the amount gifted.)

Another caveat: no Android App. Yet, anyway.

Overall, it would seem that in terms of being a sex worker, DeliveryCode is the most accepting and therefore has the least risk.

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* PayPal should be avoided at all costs by anyone in the adult entertainment industry; 1) we are NOT welcome there, 2) unless you have a business name and mailing address tied to a banking account which is not tied to your personal information you are not anonymous, 3) PayPal is not a bank and so can freeze your entire account and claim all money in it — even that which is not tied to anything adult related.

** You can get booted or banned from the Cash.Me service, including loss of funds, if there’s a perception that you are either A) using this as payment for services or products or B) are believed to be involved in any adult industry. According to two different clients, Cash Me has booted PSOs using the gift-giving URLs based on client comments. Once, a client sent a tip to the operator along with comment stating “Thanks for the story”, which, apparently, was deemed “a transaction”. Another time, a “pay pig” felt guilty and notified the Cash Me that his payment was for a findom. In both cases, the operators’ accounts were cancelled, the money not deposited, their debit cards blocked, and both women were banned from the site; the clients’ accounts remained just fine. *sigh*

MPS Store Changes

Over the weekend, one of my phone sex operators tried to add an item to her store at MyPhoneSite. The item for sale was her email address, for direct scheduling of appointments and the like. And it was upon creation of this store item that I discovered some changes at MPS.

First, the new store item did not go live on the site. Instead, it was marked “review” — which was news to me! — and only was visible from the operator side of things. Figuring I was, once again, just on the cutting edge of another policy change, I didn’t think much of this new step and just decided to wait it out. But then, just a few days later, I logged in to my MPS account and discovered that the newly created store item was not there at all. As there were no email notices sent during any part of the process, I was a bit concerned. Had the store item not passed review? (And if so, for what reason?) Or had it just become a casualty of site upgrades/changes? So I contacted MPS customer service to help me understand what was going on.

As always, MPS customer service gave me the information I needed.

The item I had tried to list in the store had not just disappeared; it had not met the new MPS store policy guidelines.

This means that we are no longer allowed to sell our email addresses to clients. Which is more than a bit disappointing, as email contact is often faster — both for those of us with multiple phone sex operator accounts and for callers who are using their mobile phones to quickly and privately schedule a call. (Not to mention, the purchasing of an email address quite often is the mark of a good phone sex client, for the purchase usually means they are serious about continuing to pay for your services and are not going to attempt to harass you for free email exchanges, etc.)

While this loss in efficiency (and client screening) is, like the recent loss of selling tangible items at MPS, admittedly painful, there is good news. Or at least good news is on the horizon.

As usual, MPS is continuing to work on issues like these. This includes trying to find or create other payment options while maintaining the requirements of merchant accounts (and so those of credit cards and payment processing companies) and the privacy of both the PSOs and the callers. While resolving these issues will take some time, it was clear from this conversation with Gary (as with those in the past), that great things will continue to come at MPS. More details to come as I am allowed to share them.