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Important! More NiteFlirt Policy Changes

I tweeted about this earlier today; but if you PSOs (“Flirts”) logged in at NF today, you likely saw this notice about changes in terms of service (TOS) policies at the phone sex platform site:

Please note that NiteFlirt does not permit the following content:
Explicit or suggested willingness to violate NiteFlirt’s policies such as “no taboos” and “no limits”
Non-consensual content
Blood play
Needle play
Knife play
Abduction fantasies
Forced intoxication

Please remove any content relating to these topics before next Monday. On Tuesday, February 28, we will be removing all listings, profiles, and Goody Bags containing this content.
For more about NiteFlirt’s policies, see Play Fair Basics. Please join us in the forums for more information if you have comments and questions.

Annoyingly, the link to the forum link doesn’t really work; like most direct links to any forum post, you get bounced to the main forum page & have to search or scroll for it. Thankfully, it is a “starred” or “pinned” thread, entitled “Policy Changes – Please read!”.

The main post is as follows:

As of today, NiteFlirt will no longer permit the following:

  • Explicit or suggested willingness to violate NiteFlirt’s policies such as “no taboos,” “no restrictions,” and “no limits”
  • Non-consensual content
  • Blood play
  • Needle play
  • Knife play
  • Abduction fantasies
  • Forced intoxication

If you have any content relating to these topics we ask that you please remove it before Tuesday, Feb. 28. On Tuesday, we will unaccept all listings, profiles, and Goody Bags containing this content.

You’ll note we are prohibiting the popular terminology of “no taboos.” As many of you have pointed out, “no taboos” suggests that a Flirt is willing to violate our policies and therefore engage in content we do not permit (even if that is often not the intent). By prohibiting this content, and other content that suggests you are willing to circumvent our policies, we make great strides in ensuring NiteFlirt remains a safe place for you to run your business and we minimize the requests for prohibited content that you receive from customers.

In that vein, we are also changing the “Anything Goes” category name to “Extra Kinky.” You will see this change in the coming days.

This begs a very obvious question, “Why?” As you may already be aware, FetLife was hit with a huge blow a few weeks ago and are currently unable to process credit cards (you can read more about that here). In order to protect NiteFlirt, our Flirts, and our community as a whole, we have reevaluated our policies and decided to make some changes.

We are happy to engage in a discussion regarding this change, however we ask that you leave politics out of the discussion and remain respectful towards us and your fellow Flirts. While it’s hard to ignore the role that politics plays, let’s make our moms happy and not discuss politics at the dinner table. In addition, we will not comment on the situation at Fetlife or the decisions they have made.

Because tweets, replies, and such can be difficult to follow, I will repeat some tweets with key points in this post — with links to tweets in case you wish to share/participate on Twitter. While I am quickly posting this news regarding NF, I am not part of the company itself; these opinions are my own. And I do recommend logging in and reading the entire forum thread, as Erin is replying to specific questions (along with referring folks to have their profiles, listings, goody items, etc. reviewed by Play Fair).

These changes, as noted, are based largely on what happened at FetLife regarding their credit card processing. As we know, the limits credit card processing companies, merchant accounts, and other financial institutions place on sex workers and the adult industry at large are bullshit creations of censorship and proof of the Pornocalypse. I obviously do not like it; but this is a fact of life & livelihood we have to deal with.

[Unlike NF, I don’t mind political talk; my parents encouraged political talk at the table. However, I just don’t have the time to rant today (I am barely fitting this post in as it is!) So feel free to comment here, on Twitter, etc. regarding the politics an culture of discrimination.]

The main point here is to address issues of consent. I know it’s particularly silly when this is fantasy talk between consenting partners, a caller and a phone sex operator. But people (in this case, financial institutions) still don’t get how this works. So they try to protect and manage things for us.

[And here I will take a moment to rant. Note that already in the terms of service at NF, one cannot discuss sexual bondage without making it clear that at least one of the submissive’s limbs is not bound. See, there’s to be “no penetration with all four limbs bound.” Which is not only an affront to those of us with rape fantasies, but an insult to those of us who are rape survivors by acting as if one limb was free — or we were not bound at all — we were not really raped!]

But back to the issue at hand here.

NF now instructs all Flirts to remove any references to any abduction or rape fantasies. From the further discussion on the forum, it seems an any forced or coerced scenes, especially those involving penetration are now forbidden. This includes oral penetration, as in “forced intoxication.” However, currently, “forced bi” or “forced feminization” are allowed (apparently as it is seen as “dressing” and role play, not penetration).

Also included in this TOS revision, are matters of skin penetration — including fantasies involving castration, knife & needle play, and any blood play. However, none of this is new as all of it, including menstrual play, has always been off limits.

What is new, is that castration appears prohibited; even if the chemical kind. (Again, this is all fantasy play — no one, no matter how much he begs, actually is castrated. But, it’s thought-police time.)

In order to address the perception that the phrases “no taboos,” “no limits,” “anything goes,” and the like are communicating that PSOs are tossing aside TOS, NF is banning such phases and, presumably, their derivatives. Also, NF is changing the “Anything Goes” category name to “Extra Kinky.” It must be pointed out that “Anything Goes” is currently both a NF category and an NF subcategory; yet it is unclear at this time if this change will affect both the category and the subcategory. [Here, I could get lost in the whole general oddness of NF’s categories… But I won’t.] What matters to Flirts & callers alike is the fact that any properly edited listings in “Anything Goes” will supposedly be automatically changed to the new “Extra Kinky” title — and links to those listings will not be lost. (One assumes hopes this will be done in both the category and the subcategory and via proper redirection. Also, that it will also work seamlessly with the affiliate program.)

What happens if your profile, listing, Goodie, etc. is not properly edited to address these announced changes? They will be marked “unaccepted,” and, like the last time we went through this, using the “red thumbs down icon.” If this is truly how NF proceeds, your listings, at least, can still be found if clients have bookmarked them or have come to them via a direct link on a website, tweet, etc. (Which is, again, why I am always pushing you to have your own website; for clients to bookmark them.) If callers know and dial your direct extension number, lines should also work.

As I said on Twitter, it should be noted that callers will not see any such notice when they login. Nor has the official NF Twitter posted a damn thing about this. Which means, once again, NF is relying on PSOs to communicate the issue & placate customers. This is unfortunate. But savvy Flirts will be on this, ready to address client concerns; even if NF isn’t.

Again, I strongly urge any PSOs using NF to read in the forum, then appraise their profiles, listings, goodies, etc. and edit as necessary. For those who have NF compliant blogs & websites, you’ll likely need to scour and edit them as well. And to do so asap! The cut off date is Tuesday, February 28, 2017; which means Play Fair is going to be very busy, so get in line with any questions right now.

Phone Sex Caller Survey Results To Help You Work Your Phone Sex Business

Over the past five years, on & off, I’ve run a survey for phone sex callers. Compiling the data was no easy feat as one after another of the free survey sites either departed or no longer allowed free surveys. So, while the questions and the answer options remained the same, I needed to do some work before I could present the results of the nearly 5,000 responses. (To be precise, there were 4,773 survey participants).

First, I meticulously ran the numbers of each survey. Then, I had to compare the results to see if there were any trends or insights to be gained from each set of results; there was no statistically significant difference. Next, I combined all the survey result data, rendered charts & graphs — and compiled all the result findings into a whitepaper available for purchase via NiteFlirt.

The results of my analysis include, where notable, include any comments from survey participants who went that extra step to email their thoughts. (Any such comments are shared under anonymity and are provided as anecdotal support or clarification.)

Results include:

  • What turns potential callers on — and off — in profiles and phone sex listings
  • Where callers start looking for independent PSOs
  • How important are photos — and what’s important about them
  • When and why phone sex operator blogs, websites, social media, etc. are important

Also included: break down by age demographics.

Disclaimers: Survey participants were self-described paying phone sex clients who volunteered to participate in an online survey. In other words, it likely does not have a representative sample. For example, an online survey certainly is affected by the lack of participation in populations which are less likely to have internet access.

However, to my knowledge, this is the only survey which provides insights into some of the demographics, concerns, turn-ons & turn-offs, of paying phone sex callers. It is provided as helpful information in terms of marketing your phone sex business. It is available as PDF containing 3,300+ words, 26 pages, with 12 graphs. You can buy it here. The whitepaper is absolutely under copyright; there is no sharing, posting, publication, or other transmission of this report or its findings without my express written permission.

Once you read the phone sex survey whitepaper, if there’s something specific in the results you are looking for help with, if you’d like more detailed information about your specific target audience demographic, feel free to schedule your personal phone sex business consultation.

Is this your first time here? You may wish to read this post and my Statement Of Purpose asap!

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Bits & Bobs Of More Bad Phone Sex Industry News

Just a few quick points…

1) Phone Sex platform site MPS also runs mainstream sites for everything from business consulting to psychic readings — but not sex. However, I’ve discovered that these operator profiles have also been deleted during the so-called MPS 2257 maintenance purge. Why would mainstream professionals need to provide 2257 documentation or otherwise abide by such rules?

Further proof to me that this drama was not about legal adult content.

Yes, I did email MPS about that.

Of course, I’ve received no word yet.

(I also sent another email about use of logo images; still no word on that either.)

2) After seeing numerous promoted tweets from Ringhop, I was intrigued enough to investigate…

On the surface of things, it looks like Ringhop, err, Ringhop Pro, is counting on you, the “Specialist”, to do all the promotion etc. In the TOS, there’s mention of Specialists being in categories… Not sure if this means there will be a directory, of sorts, or if this is just an internal thing… But if Ringhop Specialists are expected to bring their own audiences to the service, I would consider Ringhop Pro to be like Verified Call or Pay Per Call.

While the 50% take is rather steep, I wanted to address the elephant in the room: Is adult talk & nude photo sharing, sexting, etc. allowed on Ringhop Pro?

ringhop rate limits

After that big issue was clarified, I would then proceed to some of the less than ideal terms such as being paid by check, set rate limits, administrative fees on funds in accounts, and other issues — as well as the ambiguity about categories.

ringhop pro takes 50% of calls

Despite the Ringhop website stating that phone contact was available “M-F, 9am-11pm EST” I was unable to reach anyone during those hours.

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Instead, each of the 10 times (over two days — yes, during the days and times specified), I was greeted by a recording, some Muzak, more recorded operator voice, more Muzak… Sometimes I was on hold like this for a few minutes; other times it was less than a minute. But in all cases, I was eventually told no one was available to take my call.

I was then instructed to contact support via email. Upon seeing a number of ignored tweets regarding the very same subject of adult businesses, I was less inclined to waste more time typing a professional email. Besides, this is a telephone communications business — I wanted to use the phone! But I was unable to reach a human being. I’d call that a huge “Fail.” (I did, actually.) And I am not feeling good about using them as a professional service, phone sex or not. Who needs to deal with another company that, frankly, sucks at communicating?

Why Your MPS Account May Suddently Not Be Active Today

Phone sex platform site My Phone Site (MPS) is at it again. And, whatever you think of their communication skills, this latest action is sure to negatively impact your phone sex &/or cam business.

At 11:18 PM (Central Time), I received a “System Feature Update” email from MPS. It was an announcement regarding performer images as they relate to 2257 compliance — which would result, for those not in compliance, in operator profiles being rest to a pause or pending status, i.e. accounts being inactive, on Thursday, March 10, 2016 Noon PST.

MPS 2257 email notice

Yes, they gave operators roughly 12 hours to comply — and, for many PSOs, eight of those 12 hours are spent sleeping.

But that’s not the worst part.

MPS 2257 emailThe email included, supposedly, additional detailed information — most of it unable to be read. (See screenshot of full email at left.)

I presume this was an issue with cut & pasting text full of characters that were not properly encoded (unicode). Whatever the reason, within a minute of receiving the email I replied to MPS stating the issue with merely reading the email. Two hours passed…

While I waited, I tried to decipher the text I could read.

I certainly believe MPS should comply with the law. And I admit I’m no legal expert. (Legal requirements here.) But some of what MPS is requiring seems unnecessary, especially in terms of profile images.

Many sites consider themselves to be a technology service, exempting them from many 2257 issues. And while the sale of photos and videos would likely need such 2257 documentation, profile images (especially as they are not allowed to be nude or explicit) are free from such things.

But then, there’s this confusing line:

The use of custodian content will not be allowed as these do not include the 2257 required documents and even if the content site you purchased them from has these documents, the company needs to have them on file.

I’m not sure if “custodian content” means purchased content… But legally purchased adult content sold for such use absolutely does come with proper 2257 documentation. But, apparently, MPS does not allow you to use such model content as they offer no place to upload it; they only offer a place to download forms for you to use if you are the person in the photos.

And then there’s this:

Each profile MUST have a real person depicted in the photo and show the entire face of the model. No faces cropped, or animated/cartoon pictures or photos with just words

Obviously, this removes me from using MPS. (And don’t think I have not considered this to be their way to rid themselves of me.) But beyond the personal concerns, it is clear that MPS is making huge changes based on more than 2257 concerns. Even if this is all terribly difficult to read, one can read between the (terribly garbled) lines and see that MPS is trying to make all operators use their own photos.

In any case, those of you who are using your own photos — and showing your faces, you now have 10 hours to get MPS your info (even if they don’t state where to send it) and hope they verify the documentation within that window as well — or you account(s) will not be active.

Actually, in rereading the email, it seems that all accounts will be set to pending on Thursday, March 10, 2016 Noon PST. And then the review process will begin. This from a company that admits it is understaffed. So, good luck.

UPDATE: Two and a half hours later, right after I published this (of course!), MPS resent the emailed announcement. This one was legible. Here’s the text:

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This email is regarding the Federal Law 18 U.S.C. Section 2257 which imposes name and age verification, recordkeeping and labeling requirements for all pictures shown on adult oriented websites.

Therefore, we are required by law to have these documents on file. A photo ID and signed model release will need to be uploaded for each character profile you have on any of our systems. If you are using your own photos, please click http://myphonesite.com/2257modelrelease.pdf to download a model release for your use.

The most effective way to ensure all active profiles are 2257 compliant will be to set the entire system of operator profiles to a pause/pending status on Thursday, March 10, 2016 Noon PST.

Our support team will then review each profile that has submitted the required documents and, if we feel these items match the model being used, the profile will then immediately be set to an active status.

Please note the following items below:

The use of custodian content will not be allowed as these do not include the 2257 required documents and even if the content site you purchased them from has these documents, the company needs to have them on file.

Each profile MUST have a real person depicted in the photo and show the entire face of the model. No faces cropped, or animated/cartoon pictures or photos with just words

There is to be NO nudity or explicit acts shown anywhere on the system. We recommend using a headshot of the model and save the nudity for store items.

The documents you upload MUST also match the following and be free of nudity: free photo galleries, paid store items, embedded images in the about me section, blog and news posts, website banners, etc. Please also do not use excessive gaudy cover-ups as they will not be approved.

If we feel the photo ID does not match the above items, the profile will not be set to active.

Each profile has a REAL NAME section at the top that is NOT visible to the public. Please make sure that the REAL legal first and last name of the provider who takes calls for that character is in this box and that they have a verified MPS bank account that matches this name.

MPS Bank – Every person who takes calls on MyPhoneSite MUST have a verified MPS bank account. We do not allow website owners to pay their providers outside of our system. If you are found to be circumventing the system, you will be terminated immediately.

These rules and the 2257 documents will be required for all profiles listed on the following websites:

MyPhoneSite.com
PhoneMoreSex.com
PhoneSexBook.com + Website Owner White Label Sites

We apologize for any inconvenience.

If you have any questions, please let us know.

Support
myphonesite.com

I did reply, asking where we were to send our 2257 documentation.

And then, 20 minute later, I sent another email, asking when we could expect accounts to be made active again, etc.

No, I won’t be holding my breath for any reply.

I hope that those of you who find yourselves suddenly laid-off in this latest MPS move aren’t going to suffer too much.

(Another) UPDATE: An hour after that, Samantha from MPS responded to some of my questions.

  1. You are allowed to use purchased model content, so long as you have the proper 2257 documentation.
  2.  You upload the information in your operator profile page, where you upload your profile image. See image:

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Also, regarding how long this should all take:

Once you upload your documents, we will review the provider accounts that have after the system goes to pause at noon pst. We will be working around the clock to review everything, so it should be less then a few hours for your account to be inactive.

But still no word on what to do if you, as I do, use a logo or non-photo image. (And I specifically mentioned that I do not sell any such images.) I will update if/when I hear anything more.

(Oh, how late I stay up just to help you!)

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Part Two Of The Exclusive SinCats Phone Sex Site Interview

Continuing the Sin Cats interview with Mary Bennet. (Bennet is in charge of Social Media Marketing and Promotions as well as a Support Rep for Affiliates and Partners at SinCats.) In the first part, we covered the basic overview of the new phone sex site (which also allows camgirls, indie clip makers, and more).

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Included in this post are some screenshots that Mary has provided. They demonstrate the various features that are available to performers, via their admin panel. As always, click to see larger versions.

Now we get into more detail about the new site…

What are the fees for this site, both for callers & operators?

Our website is free for both callers and operators.

Why do we offer our services for FREE and allow customer and operators the ability to use our platform and keep 100% of the profits? There are a few ways that we make money — after all, it is a needed to keep the site running.

We make money via the following options:

1. We offer paid ad space. This is displayed on the left side of our website and the costs are very reasonable. Companies or individuals that wish to display a paid advertisement can contact us for details and their ad will appear on every webpage located on the left sidebar.

2. We offer upgrade options. All accounts are 100% free and include access to everything you need to succeed as an independent performer. However, you can upgrade your account by ordering highlighted listings, featured listings, your own domain name and WP blog, newsletter feature, unlimited friend requests and friend accepts, unlimited call codes, promotional services, and higher ranking (upgraded paid accounts are listed above all free accounts).

Can you give me some ballpark price ranges on such things as advertising, etc.?

We have two ad placement zones and our pricing is based on our traffic. As our traffic is low at the moment, we are not promoting our ads zones; however within the next couple months they will be available.

Ad zone 1: This is a 250 width by 150 height static ad placement that appears on the left side of all pages (except the performer profile pages). You can see an example of this on our home page at www.sincats.com listed under the ‘new performers’ sidebar widget. We display a total of 6 ads on the sidebar and they currently sell for $95/month. (*This price is subject to change by the end of this year.) We do not rotate ad spots, so once they are full we cannot accept new advertisers until a new spot becomes available.

As zone 2: This is a 120 width by 60 height static ad placement that appears on all free performer profile pages.  Paid performers have ‘ad free’ profiles. We display a total of 6 ads on all free performer profile pages and they currently sell for $50/month. (*This price is subject to change by the end of this year.) As with the left sidebar ads, we do not rotate ad spots, so once they are full we cannot accept new advertisers until a new spot becomes available.

When you say, “Paid performers have ‘ad free’ profiles,” you mean those who pay for the upgraded accounts, at the $9.95 per month, correct?

Yes. All initial registrations by default are free and therefore subject to display ads within the free profile. However, upon upgrading, the ads instantly disappear. This is another benefit to having a premium or upgraded account on SinCats.

A fully upgraded account on SinCats costs $9.95/month. You can upgrade at anytime from your admin section and the changes occur instantly.

Callers also have similar features when they upgrade their acccount. Callers can register for free and gain access to virtually every feature on our website. However there are some limitations; free customers cannot create jobs (we have a job board that displays recent job postings), free customers have limitations on the amount of messages they can send/receive and the amount of call codes they can use.  Also the customer’s status is listed as ‘free’ and this is displayed on the customer’s profile page.

However, none of these upgrades are needed to use our platform — or make serious money as a performer. Money that you don’t need to wait for, money that is received in the manner that you wish to receive it: Direct to you from the customer.

sin cats performer profile optionsSpeaking of money, I see that operators are allowed to use Amazon and the like as payment; aren’t you concerned about the issues involved here, namely that some of those options are either not merchant accounts &/or have expressly forbidden adult content/business?

We have a wide range of options that operators can choose from when accepting payment from a customer. It is important to note that we do not accept payment on behalf of the customer. Instead the payment goes directly from the customer to the performer.

Also there is no direct correlation between the chosen payment method and adult services. Amazon Wish Lists have been used for years as a way to receive items in exchange for services.

There are so many ways to receive payment that do not include the risk involved in a direct merchant account: Account Now, Cash, Money Order, Phone Card, Western Union, Chase, Dwolla, NetSpend, Ritani, Wish Pot, Bitcoin, Check, Money Gram, Zappos, and trade (or other).

The option to accept payment by ‘trade’ could mean that a customer has a particular skill set that you need and are willing to provide your services in exchange for that skillset. This might mean website design, website development, paying for an ad placement to promote the performer’s profile on high traffic phone sex websites, legal assistance, etc.

Adult merchant accounts are a good option and this is why we have listed credit card as one of the possible choices. There are many performers that have their own adult merchant account and can use this account to process customer’s credit cards. However for the average (and especially new performer), merchant accounts are not an option that is easy to obtain.

Here’s some of the reasons why…

Merchant accounts are risky. Did you know that a customer can order services online, then at any time within 3 – 6 months that customer can contact his bank and report the transaction as fraud? Even if the transaction was 100% valid and you have records (IP address, email, phone number, etc.) chances are you will still lose that sale. In addition to that you will be charged a $35.00 fee for every chargeback that is filed. You may make $5,000.00 in one month, then lose $7,500.00 the next month due to chargebacks. And any performer that has worked in this industry using their own merchant account knows that the banks always side with the customer and chargeback disputes are virtually impossible to win. Virtually all pay per minute phone sex and webcam sites have an issue with this and often have to adjust the performer’s payment based on the chargeback. It is not the fault of the company, but rather the difficult position that banks place ‘high risk’ adult companies in regards to chargebacks.

Merchant accounts are expensive. An adult merchant account will cost you $1,000 a year for Visa and MasterCard registration. You also need to show proof of a valid business license and business address. In addition to their there are tons of small fees (transaction fees, gateway fees, etc).

Also if you process credit cards on your own website you are required to be PCI compliant. This means that you have to provide all of the nessacry means to protect the customer’s credit card details. If there is a breach and this information is exposed you can be fined over $100,000. If you think it is easy to secure this data think about Target and how they were recently hacked and thousands of customer’s credit card details were exposed.

An alternative…

In comparison, let’s consider that you use an alternative payment option. For example Bitcoin. You open a merchant Bitcoin account (it is free on most websites and easy to setup). You then provide the customer with a Bitcoin payment link to order your services. Once the payment is completed you will receive a notification and you can proceed to provide your services knowing that this money will not be charged back and you will receive virtually 100% of it as Bitcoin charges very little processing fees.

Or perhaps you think a little more outside the box and offer your services in exchange for minutes added to your pre-paid phone. Often performers use a pre-paid phone as this provides a layer of anonymity and security. In this scenario you provide the customer with a link to the pre-paid card you require to load your phone. The customer purchases the card, sends you the code and you can add the minutes instantly to your account. No risk of chargeback.

Another scenario might be that you need more traffic in order to bring in more customers and sales. You can offer the customer an option to pay for ad placement in exchange for services. There are tons or reputable services that offer this, including Juicyads, PhoneSexCentral, etc. [See here & here.] Once the ad is live, you can proceed to engage with the customer and provide your services as agreed.

Once you start to consider all of the possibilities it can be rather exciting. There are so many ways to receive payment and remove risk of chargebacks and payment delays.

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Are there any verification requirements? Specifically, do you verify legal adult age/status? Are operators required to be verified in any way?

All participants on our network are required to be 18 years or older. We do require verification on a case-by-case basis. If we believe that a performer may be underage we flag the account (suspending public listing) and send a message to require proper documentation.

We have been counseled on this through our legal services and work closely with our attorney to ensure that all practices are legal. Since performers on our network do not work for us, but instead use our platform to network and promote themselves, we are not obligated to require age verification for every account. We are required to police our network and ensure that all content is legal, and we do this 24/7.

For those of you familiar with PhoneSexCentral (which is a major phone sex listing website) you will know that you can create an account and promote your website without the need to send in sensitive details such as a photo ID, social security card, banking account information, etc. Our website works in a similar manner, however it has far more advanced social networking features and is based on recent technology.

I believe you are using CCBill for the upgraded account, correct? If so, this would provide adult verification, yes?

We use Epoch and CCBill. Epoch provides an excellent direct mode payment gateway and a slightly higher success rate of payment. CCBill is used as a fall-back processor. However both provide age verification.

We are also considering additional measures to prevent minors from gaining access to our website. Monitoring site activity and relying on community support are also tools that we will use in our efforts to prevent unauthorized access.

Of the 200+ members, do you know what percent are operators, what percent are callers/buyers?

The ration is about 50/50 at the moment. We are trying to promote the site to both account types so that the member base (customer and performers) grow at a steady and natural level.

Thanks, Mary. I myself am going to create a performer account & play around a bit… Likely, much more to come on this new option in phone sex & cam promotion called Sincats.

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The Exclusive Sin Cats Interview (Part 1)

sin-cats sincats phonesex cam dirty talkSin Cats is a relatively new phone sex site. It’s not truly a platform site, which means it is neither collecting payments nor taking a cut of transactions, but it is far more than a marketing or advertising opportunity as it does offer the option to safely and anonymously connect calls and chat. Intrigued, I sat down to discuss with Mary Bennet, who is in charge of Social Media Marketing and Promotions for Sin Cats. Here, in this first part of my interview, Bennet gives us an overview of the new site. (In part two, we get down into the real nitty-gritty – so stay tuned!)

Hi Mary, please give us a general company/site overview.

Sin Cats is an adult network in which people from all over the world can make friends, connect, send messages, share images, videos, voice files and have fun. Our website is new (launched officially on July, 11 2015). However, prior to this we had been in the adult industry for over 12 years, and have experience in membership sites, webcam, phone sex, web design, hosting and social networking. We spent approximately 6 months in the development stage before launching Sin Cats.

Our website is an open platform for adults that wish to promote themselves and network with others. This does not simply relate to phone sex, but includes webcam, media sales (pictures, videos, audio), modeling and even professional services such as content writing, website promotion, website design, etc.

Currently our staff consists of two full-time developers, a marketing director, and two customer service reps.

Open registration is now taking place and we are working with several websites to find talented entertainers that wish to create a profile on our website.

What is the main goal of Sin Cats?

Our goal is not to compete with existing pay per minute platforms, but to provide an alternative venue where adult performers can promote themselves and even work independently, if they wish.

Sin Cats is not a phone sex service in the traditional since. In reviewing this industry we determined that there were several well-established phone sex companies and to create a new one would be redundant. Therefore, we created a truly unique alternative that gives performers the option to work independently or promote their call buttons and links from existing services.

Unlike most platforms, we allow performers to be independent. This means that they can speak directly to the customers, work-out alternate payment options, and even use various forms of communication (including Skype, Google Voice, etc.).

We also have an amazing user-to-user call system that includes audio/video and text chat. However, it is not required that you use our call system. We have included a screenshot on this at the bottom of this interview.

sin_cats_example_profile_pageHere is a list of things you can do on Sin Cats:

1. Give your private email address to customers.

2. Use and post your own billing methods (Amazon Wish Lists, Dwolla, Netspend, Phone Card, etc.). Basically any method you wish to use to transfer funds directly from the customer to you is accepatble.

3. Post or sell your IM contact details (Skype, AIM, etc).

4. Sell pictures and charge customers directly and in any format you wish.

5. Sell videos and charge customers directly and in any format you wish.

6. Sell audio files and charge customers directly and in any format you wish.

7. Post FREE call codes and display them publicly on our call code board (this will get you tons of new customers)

8. Contact customers off-site through any means that is acceptable to both you and the customer (phone, email, Skype, etc.)

9. Use our website for adult dating. (Yes, you can actually hook-up with customers if you want — please note that this can be dangerous and therefore you need to use precaution!)

10. Post payment options to other pay per minute platforms. If you have accounts on other websites and wish for customers to pay and connect with you through those sites you can post call button codes, links etc.

11. Give your private phone number to customers. We have a user-to-user call system option that provides completely secure and anonymous connections from anywhere in the world; however, if you want to give a client your private phone number you are welcome to do so.

12. Text customers from your phone.

13. Use our website for adult networking beyond traditional phone sex and webcam. This includes modeling, content writing, website design, website services (development, adverts, etc).

You can do practically ANYTHING you want on Sin Cats (as long as it is legal of course).

Our goal is to help provide a vibrant and open platform for adult performers to network, make money, and ultimately have far more choices then what is currently available on existing pay per minute phone sites.

We have heard terrible stories of PSOs not receiving payment, losing money from chargebacks, losing 50% (or more of their earnings due to website fees), getting kicked off of a website for sharing off-site contact information, etc. We believe that there needs to be a site that caters to adult performers that wish to be independent, or at least have an additional option from the traditional pay per minute website.

Just to be absolutely clear, operators allowed a profile page or blog space which allows them to link to their own websites, social media, profiles at phone sex sites, etc. right?

Yes! In fact we have included a wide range of amazing features. Each operator has their own profile page, search terms, blog (and blog RSS feed), friend section (to send and receive friend requests), sidebar friend widget that displays who is online and a quick ‘send message’ option), image gallery, video section, audio creation section, media library (where images, videos and audio files can be uploaded, stored and sent to users via email or embedded), private inbox, newsletter system and more.

Sorry if that was a run-on sentence, it’s just that we have so much that is included in the operator section that it is hard to fit into one sentence.

Operators are also free to promote their own websites, call buttons, social media and profile links to other phone sex sites, as you can see in this example profile page (image on the left side of this post).

As mentioned, part two of this Sin Cats interview will be published tomorrow!

UPDATE: Part Two is here.

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An (Unfortunate) Update About Phone Sex Platform MPS (MFT Services)

This is a difficult post to write… Many of you know that I have long been a fan, even a cheerleader, for phone sex platform site MyPhoneSite (MPS); but as I feel obligated to report on realities in the phone sex industry, I must report when things have changed — including, and perhaps especially so, when they change for the worse. Here we go….

Back at the end of January (2015), I was alerted to a rate percentage change at phone sex site MPS. This alert, came not from MPS proper, but rather in the form of a blog comment.

While waiting for Angelica to reply, I searched all my email accounts for such a notice from MPS. I found none. I logged into my MPS accounts to see if there was an alert or notice there. I found none. On February 8, 2016, I sent emails to MPS owner Gary & assistant Samantha, asking about this issue.

Hello again,

Once again I am hearing rumors that MPS is either A) going under or B) changing the operator split. I’ve received no official emails about either of these things, but some girls have stated they have (especially that the split is now or is going to 50/50?!). Please advise.

Lynn

I wasn’t super hopeful (after all, they had not fully responded to several other emails of mine, resulting in unresolved issues), but I had to try.

I received no reply.

In the weeks that followed, I sent additional emails to both of them. I also left multiple voice mail messages — for each of them. I received no reply of any sort. None. Zip. Nada.

In fact, I received no comment at all from anyone from MPS until February 25, 2016, when I had left one last set of voice mails and emails stating that if they did not respond, I would be writing a post without their input.

Gary’s response was this:

Thanks for sending me an email. To answer your questions. A. MPS is not going under. Actually we are quite busy with our new phone system. B. Yes we notified our active website owners that there is a percentage change due to a new charge back policy. We didn’t send this email to you since you are an affiliate on the system.

If there is anything else, let me know.

Within minutes, I sent the following in reply:

Gary, I have a Super User account & numerous profiles, including with this very email address, and I have checked with other PSOs I know who use MPS and NONE OF US received any notice regarding the rate change. Please explain.

His reply:

We try to avoid sending announcements through the system since it sends an email to each email in the system which results in massive duplicates of emails. We sent this email to our active website owners on payroll. We see the commissions you earn as an affiliate, hence we didn’t send you the email. I will have Samantha forward the email to you. Let me know what operators didn’t get the email so I can reach out to them personally.

Thanks,
Gary

Note, there was still no confirmation of the exact percentage split.

I replied with this:

So operators who were not deemed “active” did not receive any notices?? When you log in, there is no notice either. Which means plenty of us have had our rates changed without notice of any sort. Even the rate calculator & percentage split notices are absent. Does this seem ethical to you?

Nearly 30 minutes passed & no response; our conversation had stalled. I sent this:

See, this is the problem. MPS has issues & communication breaks down when things are difficult. Given my recent issues with this pattern, there is little I can do to make those who ask me feel better about how they are treated, what they read online in rip-off reports, etc. This also includes callers who are not comfortable with MPS’s reputation & refuse to make calls with me there. I really wish we could work through an entire conversation about the issues so they could be clarified.

(More on such history here.)

The proverbial crickets chirped in the silence that followed.

But I tried again:

You leave me no choice but to run with the story presenting this situation as it is with little-to-no information from you. It’s really disappointing. To see where things once were, to where they are now… I wish you would reconsider going silent at times like these. It doesn’t help the rumors surrounding MPS, all of MFT Services, and the overall reputation.

Nearly an hour later, Gary responded:

Thank you for bringing up these issues. Due to the issues with the internal mass notification system, we chose to email individual active providers who are actively on payroll. If there are certain operators that need to be contacted, please let me know so I can do so immediately.

We are aware there are issues with support and are looking to resolve those by the end of the 1st quarter. We are looking into setting up a new proactive support system with a support team since Samantha and myself are often swamped with operating issues. If there is any other issues that need to be clarified please let me know.

From my phone, I replied:

This is a continuation of your defense of a poor situation, but is not info requested which is needed to clarify the realities for operators now.

Gary replied:

What info do you feel that is not clarified for the realities for operators? I don’t feel I am in defense when I am just providing our acknowledgement of the communication issues and our plan to resolve issues of lack of support.

I have requested Samantha to forward you the new charge-back information.

You haven’t provided the operators that need to be contacted as well, I am more then willing to reach out and communicate to the providers, but I need to know whom first.

Finally, the information from Samantha arrived. (This would be nearly three hours since Gary had stated he’d requested Samantha to send it to me; nearly 3 weeks since originally requested.) This is supposed to be an (undated) copy of what MPS sent to so-called “active” operators:

Dear Valued MPS Website Owner:

We would like to inform you of a change that will take effect next week.

The Bad News:

Due to ever increasing site-wide operational costs, the numerous customer charge-backs and the extremely high fees that go along with these charge-backs, we will be adjusting all web owner percentage rates to an even 50/50 starting on February 1, 2016.

Operational costs include such things as website hosting fees, website maintenance and upgrades, credit card processing and merchant bank fees, phone system and connection fees, and customer charge-backs and fees.

——————————————————————————————–

The Good News!

When the web owner percentage rates changes on February 1, 2016, ALL calls taken from this point forward, will NOT be subject to charge-backs. This means that NO funds will be removed from ANY provider payouts ever again!

Please note that customers are able to charge-back up to 6 months of transactions. So, if a customer charges backANY calls taken BEFORE February 1, 2016, providers will still be held responsible. But, on August 1, 2016, which is 6 months after the new rate change, no provider will be held responsible for ANY customer charge-backs!

*Exception: Providers will only be held responsible for charge-backs that have resulted from provider/customer fraud*

——————————————————————————————–

Please keep in mind that it does costs a great deal of money to run this entire pay-per-minute phone system and everything that goes on behind the scenes of which you are most likely not aware. Also, remember that you are working on this platform, receiving your MPS websites and own adult business at NO cost to you!

All adult-related businesses are considered high risk and there is no way to prevent customers from doing charge-backs. However, we do the best we can, but unfortunately, this is the cost of doing business in the high risk adult industry.

Warmly,

Samantha

Unhappily noting the rate change had taken effect weeks ago, I took on the task of responding to Gary’s email, collecting the specific questions I had asked (via email and telephone), which neither he nor Samantha had addressed. (Thankfully, I am a very experienced and professional PSO who takes very detailed notes on any and all phone contact I have, including the MPS voicemail messages I’d left.) This is what I sent in response:

Questions which still remain:

You mentioned a “new phone system” – what is it? And is this new system for MPS only, or the other MFT sites?

Related, do the rate percent changes affect the other sites/programs as well?

I *still* do not have proper information on these other sites. After nearly a year of stating you’d get back to me, you referred me to Samantha, who bailed on our appointment; so I have no idea about each of them or their differences. Would anyone care to actually address those? If so, reply with the following (for each site):

URL:
What is special about it, how it differs from MPS:

Are there any plans to notify operators/website owners/super users of these changes, either with an alert when they login, resuming the rate calculators, or anything at all?

I did receive the email from Samantha, thank you. But this is 3 weeks after initial inquiry. For years now you have been mentioning when communication & support issues will be resolved; clearly it is not a priority & it shows. And if I am hearing so much about this, you can bet it is costing MPS business, both on the operator & caller sides. I really, really wish this would be a priority & corrected. It was once what separated MPS from the other platforms in a positive way; now it is being discussed in terms of MPS being, and I quote, “the worst.”

This communication issue when combined with the rate change is very troubling. While the notice mentioned costs of chargebacks, hosting, etc., this is no different than what other platforms offer and they are not changing rates like this. Anything you’d like to state about that?

I have contacted the operators which have contacted me, but so far, none of them have given me permission to send you their contact info. (About half have replied, stating they are more comfortable reading when I post at my site.) If/when I receive permission, I will send you their information.

What do you think the response was?

If you guessed “Nothing,” then you are correct. There was no response.

This despite clearly articulated questions (all which would be within the parameters of either #1 being a registered PSO on their system or, #2 as someone with whom they have done official business with, including interviews, assisting MPS regarding issues with other PSOs & clients, etc.). This silence also in spite of my expressing my own frustration regarding aborted problem solving and other communication issues.

An hour later, I sent an email stating that I was still awaiting word on this.

Still no reply.

The next day, February 26, 2016, I tried one last time. I sent a “Last call” email, noting I would be making my post without any additional information or input from them if they did not respond with the info requested — an outcome they must be more than happy with as I have heard nothing from them whatsoever, and today is February 29, 2016.

To ReCap, Here’s What You Really Need To Know:

* If you are a phone sex operator, “master operator”, website owner, or “super web owner” at MyPhoneSite, your earnings have been cut. As of February 1, 2016, you only receive 50% of calls & store sales. Yes, this is true even if you never received any such email notice, no alert when you logged in, nor other notification of any type.

* If you never received any email notice of the above changes, you are likely not considered to be “active.” (I was not considered “active” in January, 2016, when the notice went out, even though as an operator I had calls at MPS in October, 2015, and had store sales in January of 2016!) This means you are not likely to receive any notices about changes in rate, policy, TOS, etc. going forward.

* Whatever you think of my communications with MPS, or even my personal communication style, it’s clear that MPS is suffering from some major communication issues — primarily that of not caring about communication with members (at least PSOs, anyway). This is a continuing negative trend as documented here. Regarding these communication issues, Gary states they “will resolve those by the end of the 1st quarter.” That would be by the end of March, 2016.

* Phone sex callers who use MPS, if you see your PSOs raising their rates, this is why. Their earnings for services provided have been cut by 10-20 percent.

* The matter of MFT’s other sites/programs dates back to May, 2014, when Gary promised an interview/update regarding all of MPS and other sites belonging to parent company MFT Services (which also has PhoneSexBook.com, PhoneMoreSex.com, and a premium white label service; there may be more, but… well, you’ll see). Roughly eight months later, Gary passed me along to Samantha. We corresponded briefly before that talk too was abandoned; it was restarted in July of 2015, culminating in scheduling an appointment for a telephone conference/meeting which Samantha simply bailed on. Neither she nor Gary expressed any interest in contacting me “when things settle down and you have a working system, can keep appointments, maintain communications, etc.” Which is likely a sign bunch of signs unto themselves.

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The Exclusive Phone Sex Secrets Arousr Interview

While many phone sex companies and platform services rely on the PSOs to do the bulk of promotion, Arousr is one company that actively pays for advertising to promote their site, app, and services. Gracie’s already provided a rather detailed review of Arousr, which offers sexting, phone sex calls, and video chats; but I wanted to know more about the company and its philosophy. So via email, I spoke with Patrick Roy, Assistant Marketing Manager at Arousr.

There’s a lot of competition phone sex, sexting, video or cam chat. Why would Arousr want to enter the market?

Arousr is simply the logical progression for our current phone sex business. We did not simply enter the market, we were instrumental in building it. Current Canadian and US laws, as well as, Google’s impact on the Internet in regards to the adult entertainment industry has resulted in blocking access to a global market for phone sex.

Having been in the business for the past twelve years we saw the need for mobile solutions for both our clients and our chat hosts. We built Arousr from the ground up specifically for mobile phones to ensure 100% discretion. This is no ordinary application, you can chat using both direct SMS texting or download and use the App. We think the application itself is the best way because it has special features, but of course you may not want to have an icon on your phone and therefore you can simply SMS your favourite girl. Each chat host has her own designated mobile number which is used for both texting and calling so you can easily just add her to your contacts list. There is no other service like this that enables such direct and easy access to phone sex. We have numbers in USA, Canada, and UK as well as a variety of ways to pay for the services including CC, Interact, (Canada)carrier billing (UK), and prepayment via Western Union (US). Information regarding billing is here.

How is Arousr different? What is Arousr’s brand?

Now, that might be a tough question for some, but I would have to say that Arousr is just totally different and we like it that way.

We are different in many ways.

1) We wanted our brand to be fun, controversial, and help to empower women in the industry to be able to take control of their own lives and sexuality. We feel we have succeeded in doing that not only by hiring chat hosts but we also have a number of women in management.

2) Not only do our chat hosts earn money from chatting, sexting, and video chat, but they also have other options to earn money. We offer a very lucrative mobile affiliate program, in which chat hosts can share links on their own websites and social media platforms and earn money when a customer joins via that link. Our hosts can earn money for entering social media contests and promotions that we have throughout the year as well.

3) Our chat hosts (girls, gay men, and tvts) have the freedom of choosing when to work and how they want to work. Some only want to engage in phone sex, while others like sexting, and some are comfortable in video chat. The freedom to choose what works best for them allows them to create their own business. We do, however, have round-the-clock hosts to ensure the phone is always answered.

4) We really did not like what we were seeing in any of the current applications that were available. They simply do not have control over the users profiles and thus they also have no idea how old some of the users are. Arousr is for Consenting Adults only. All hosts are screened and verified as legal adults. And we keep all proof of age. The internet is bombarded with selfies and you do not have any idea if they are real or fake. Arousr girls profiles are updated frequently so you can be assured they are real girls.

5) Guys like to sext and they want girls to answer them. Searching through hundreds of profiles for girls who will answer back is futile, as most girls do not sext with random strangers. This is a fallacy as I am sure you can attest to.

6) Our video chat is not a “cam” service. This is a ONE on ONE video chat session. The experience is a bit more personal between the chat host and the client. Often our chat hosts are treated more like the clients’ phone girlfriend than a random stranger.

 

How important is advertising to Arousr’s business model?

Advertising and affiliates make up the bulk of our business model but we would be nothing without the chat hosts that we have. Have you seen them? Enough said.

licked it arousrWith our social media efforts we try to be fresh, fun, and controversial. It is not out of the ordinary to see a post saying something like this “I licked it” Arousr campaign.

What does Arousr do to try to reach potential customers and stay in the minds of current customers?

We offer 100 free credits for anyone who joins Arousr as well as a number of promotional credits for repeat clients via push notifications. Whenever a new host becomes employed with us we encourage our clients to meet them and we stay current on social media to inform them of who is online and what we have to offer.

Our goal is to be the best in the business. Competition is nothing but a means in which to improve yourself. All you have to do is do it better. We are always improving the application and adding new features to it almost every week.

It seems you have to provide cam/video chat sessions &/or photos of yourself to become a chat host. (In other words, no ability to purchase content.) Is this true? And if so, why?

Yes, it’s true. We did not go into this blindly; we knew what we were doing. We wanted to be different. You can find adult websites and porn everywhere and all you will get is some sexy images, but we wanted Arousr to be a more personal connection between the client and the host. You cannot do this if you’re merely an image or populated content. This is a more real personal experience and is great for help with sexual issues, exploring fantasies, or simply engaging in conversation with a real person.

Also, our video chat is not a “cam” service. This is a ONE on ONE video chat session. The experience is a bit more personal between the chat host and the client. Often our chat hosts are treated more like the clients’ phone girlfriend than a random stranger.

Interested? Here’s where you apply.

What Do I Think Of Phone Sex Platform TalkToMe?

I am often solicited to join other phone sex platform sites — if only just to try it out & review them here at Phone Sex Secrets. But why would I create an account, market myself etc., just to get a few callers to review the platform service? That’s a lot of work for a woman who is busy juggling phone sex with callers on other platforms (NF & MPS) and consulting with PSOs too. Usually these platform sites offer nothing new; and a number of them have come and gone already anyway. So what’s the point?

But since I mentioned the unethical TalkToMe (TTM) promo, I was asked a few questions about TTM — most of which I could not answer because I did not join the phone sex platform. That sparked questions about why I didn’t join the site. Seeing as this might just be helpful, both to phone sex operators in terms of evaluating companies and those developing platforms themselves, I thought I would discuss what I found when I went to visit TTM. So here’s my review of TTM as a potential “Talker”.

From the perspective of a prospective phone sex operator, the biggest problem with TTM is that the site does not clearly state their terms. There’s not even a simple page listing the percentage they take. At least there isn’t any info provided before you sign up; and why would I sign up for the unknown?

If you spend some time scouring for the Talker’s FAQ (and it does take some time to find it; you have to use search engines, not find it on the site), you’ll see that there are lots of caps and limits on what you can charge.

Per minute rate is:

The maximum you can charge for a minute is $2.99.

talktome-rates

However, if you search on the site, you have an option for “highest priced” — and that shows you that you can charge more than $2.99.

highest-per-minute-rate

So which is it? Is there some sort of preferential treatment? I guess that’s what they meant when they said, “If you have an argument to charge more, please do so via email and we will review and if approved increase your rate.” What is a preferred “argument”? Or maybe TTM just can’t keep up with their own policy changes. In any case, it just does not inspire confidence.

Webchat rates:

All webchats are 25 cents for each message sent by the caller.

Does that mean you don’t get paid if you send a message back?

talktome-webchat-fee

Rates For Messages (which seems to cover Pay Per Views aka Pay To Views aka Store Items)

ttm-message-fee-limits

You can charge a maximum of $2.00 for a message without any attachments. A message with attachments have a maximum of $5.00 per attachment.

Poor grammar aside, I don’t like the limits. Especially when the limits seem to think typed words have less value than recorded voices or images or whatever attachments are allowed. And I have no idea how many attachments are allowed per message. At least not at this point; I suppose I could continue to search and search… But if I have to work this hard, well, no thanks.

How much do you get paid?

Whatever the rates you can charge for TTM services, it’s still murky as to what percentage a PSO gets. As best as I can ascertain it is 50%. That’s based on this bit from the TTM FAQ regarding Direct Connect calls (which is apparently like dispatch calls, and participation is optional). Direct Connect rates are 99 cents per minute, and Talkers get 50 cents of that. But I still wasn’t sure if that “normal commission” rate meant half of the per minute rate, or if you just made 50 cents no matter what the per minute rate was…

talktome-direct-connect

In further reading, I found more about Direct Connect calls.

You will receive your normal commission off of these 99 cent per minute calls ($0.50/min)

ttm-direct-dial-phone-sex

(There too you find out about other programs, such as working for free on Talk-Chat lines. I suppose you can see this as a form of trolling; but I’m not a fan of talking for free. And not to someone calling a free chat line. They rarely cough-up the money to pay per minute.)

A few TTM Talkers have mentioned a 50-50 split before, so I’m guessing that’s true. At least for calls. But… Well, that’s not good enough. And I don’t just mean the split — I mean it’s not good enough for me to have to figure all this out for myself. Why can’t TTM just provide all that information up front?

Other things

The site plasters a 1-800 number for support; but all you’ll find there is a recording promising live help will arrive one day. Meanwhile, leave a message with your phone number and someone will get back to you. If you want anonymity, use the site’s contact form and keep your fingers crossed.

Also, when you are on the main page, category pages, etc., you are not able to right-click and open a profile or listing in a new tab or window — that makes for a lot of back & forth when searching. Not a cool idea of potential callers.

TalkToMe’s Unfair & Unethical Attack On NiteFlirt

Clearly trying to capitalize on NiteFlirt’s latest policy announcement , TalkToMe (TTM) sent an email alert of their own members, or at least to their PSOs (called “Talkers”), entitled Your Voice, Your Choice!

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[Normally, I modify the font — but since they sent their email in comic sans (which is a much mocked and even hated font), I kinda felt like I needed to preserve it!]

Talkers, no one has the right to tell you how to make your money — not your phone company, not your customers and certainly not your billing & marketing service.

Adult Entertainment websites banning their “Flirts” from listing multiple links on their own personal websites and social media is UNFAIR and UNETHICAL. If these companies truly wanted their agents to succeed, they’d recognize every Talent’s right to promote themselves as they wish, and support their freedom to engage fully in social media. Companies who try to prohibit things like this are afraid of competition. We are not.  We believe in our site and our service. 

TalkToMe.com welcomes all Talkers, from every competing platform. Please try us and compare us! With over 20 solid years of experience in Adult Entertainment, we created our website with YOU in mind. We truly believe it is the best way to earn money talking on the phone — and we continue to customize our features according to Talker needs and preferences.

TalkToMe.com would NEVER ban our Talkers for listing with multiple companies, nor for promoting more than one listing in your personal accounts. To the competition, we say:  Bring it on!

For years now, there’s only been one decent option for independent Talkers — that’s never been good for an industry.  Whether it’s automobiles, airlines, or long distance service, giving consumers a choice has always led to better prices & better product. We’re confident we’ve created the next level in virtual, interactive Adult Entertainment (plus fantastic customer service), and we’re thrilled to welcome you to our adventure!

Don’t worry, we won’t try to tell you what you can & can’t put on your personal social media (we’re too busy integrating over a million high-traffic phone lines to spy on you anyway). Remember:  You deserve to make the most money possible, period. No matter how much traffic a company sends you, they have no right to mess with your ability to fill downtime.

Thank you being a TalkToMe.com Talker, we appreciate your efforts and wish you the best luck and the highest earnings no matter what website you’re on.

May the best platform win!

It’s fair — and often a great idea — to capitalize on a competitor’s weakness or exploit a competitor’s perceived weakness. But if you travel that path, you also expose yourself to risks. In other  words, you’d better do it right. And TTM did it wrong. All wrong.

Aside from reading more like a sales pitch to join TTM rather than an update for members, there are even bigger problems with this message. Let’s deal with the misleading and downright false information first.

False Statements TTM Makes About NF:

1) NiteFlirt is not “banning their ‘Flirts’ from listing multiple links on their own personal websites and social media.” Their policy is about links from NF’s site, phone sex operator profiles and listings, to personal websites and social media accounts. Lots of websites, phone sex platform sites included, have similar policies to prevent traffic leaks (as well as passing along SEO & PR juice) to competing companies.

2) TTM’s claim that NF is prohibiting PSOs from “listing with multiple companies” and “promoting more than one listing” is equally untrue. Even if NF wished for that, they have no control over such things. But they can, and are, taking steps to protect their members from leaving NF and taking their money to other companies.

3) NF is not trying to “tell you what you can & can’t put on your personal social media”; NF is merely stating their terms for what can & cannot be linked from their own site.

But there are even more problems with TTM’s email.

Along with misrepresenting their competitor’s weakness, TTM is also misrepresenting their own policies.

Facts About TTM’s Policies:

1) According to TTM’s own Talker Policy, “You will not use any banner advertisements or “pop up” windows or create or include links to sites which involve e-commerce, marketing, solicitation or sale of any items of any kind, whether related to or outside the scope of your Talker listing.”

talk-to-me-linking-policy

How many PSO websites, social profiles, blogs, etc., refrain from solicitation or marketing? Isn’t that rather the overall point of them? And even if you employ a very soft touch form of marketing, how many of us review and link to sex toys that are for sale — that’s ecommerce. And so are listings for competing sites and services.

Doesn’t it then seem rather appalling for TTM to say that “no one has the right to tell you how to make your money”?.

2) TTM’s policy also states that Talkers “will not place any link or other contact information on our Site to facilitate communication outside of our Site.”

talktome-contact-policy

Any decent website or blog has a means of contact — be it a form or an email address listed. And any social media account has private chats, direct messaging, and the like. That’s the whole point of social media: To. Be. Social. To communicate. So, according to TTM’s own policy, Talkers may not link to their own social media accounts and personal websites.

So much for TTM recognizing “every Talent’s right to promote themselves as they wish, and support their freedom to engage fully in social media,” right?

3) The above rules, and many others, are all placed beneath TTM’s primary policy for their PSOs:

talktome-talker-policy

1. In addition to the Terms and Conditions, you agree to comply with the following requirements in your use of our Site.
Without limiting any other remedies TalkToMe.com may have, TalkToMe.com may, in its sole discretion for any reason or for no reason and without notice, immediately modify or terminate your access to, membership in and use of the Site especially if you have violated any of the following requirements each of which you must agree to as a condition to your use of our Site

That means that breaking any of the other linking rules means you are in danger of being tossed or banned from the TTM platform.

Since TTM opted to not only use the words “unfair” and “unethical” but to type them in all caps too, it seems only fair and ethical to call them on their flagrant misrepresentation of NF’s policies and the denial of their own prohibiting policies.

And I have to ask them, “Just who is prohibiting things out of fear of the competition now?”